Issue #19972 has been updated by vo.x (Vit Ondruch). Eregon (Benoit Daloze) wrote in #note-1:
Also this might remove the need for `specifications/default` which is a bit odd.
I have PR opened for this for a long time: https://github.com/rubygems/rubygems/pull/2909 However, now I believe that start with separating default gems into independent directory could be better starting point.
* Bundled gems are supposed to be "just like another gem, they just happen to be shipped with Ruby without needing gem install". Maybe those make sense to keep together with user gems? Although from the POV that they are sort of "stdlib"/"standard gems" it makes sense to separate them.
I am looking at this problematic mainly from Fedora POV, where we manage these directories via RPM and we want to manage these directories via RPM only as much as possible. StdLib certainly. And it should be different place from the other RPM managed gems IMHO. I think it might be useful to easily see the distinction. And it certainly needs to be different place then `gem install`ed gems. ---------------------------------------- Bug #19972: Install default/bundled gems into dedicated directories https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/19972#change-105078 * Author: vo.x (Vit Ondruch) * Status: Open * Priority: Normal * ruby -v: ruby 3.3.0dev (2023-10-24 master c44d65427e) [x86_64-linux] * Backport: 3.0: UNKNOWN, 3.1: UNKNOWN, 3.2: UNKNOWN ---------------------------------------- I think that the current situation, where the same directory (lets call it `Gem.default_dir`) is used for default/bundled gems as well as for user installed gems, is suboptimal. During the times, this has caused us quite some issue on Fedora. Historically, we redefined the `Gem.default_dir` to user home directory, to avoid the mixing of system gems and user installed gems. Unfortunately, with advent of default/bundled gems, we were facing issues that these gems were suddenly not listed, etc. I am realizing this issue in full once again since the "user install" RubyGems feature has landed [1]. I also think that we have arrived to this situation by evolution, not by design. Therefore my proposal is: Keep the `Gem.default_dir` for user `gem install`ed gems and lets install default and bundled gems into separate dedicated directories. Have separate `Gem.bundled_gems_dir` and `Gem.default_gems_dir` structures. Of course, if `Gem.default_dir == Gem.bundled_gems_dir == Gem.default_gems_dir`, we still can have the current layout. I have a simple POC here: https://github.com/ruby/ruby/pull/8761 BTW I have reported it here, because I think that RubyGems provides all it is needed. So it is not RubyGems ticket after all. However, I believe that RubyGems could benefit from this long term and some simplifications/cleanups would be possible. [1]: https://github.com/rubygems/rubygems/pull/5327 -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/