Issue #20861 has been updated by tenderlovemaking (Aaron Patterson). byroot (Jean Boussier) wrote in #note-6:
Are you thinking something different (like specify quantum in time rather than priority?)
Yes, quite literally: `Thread.current.quantum = 20` or something like that.
Which IMO is much easier to reason about than priorities. And generally you have threads that are meant as "main" threads and some that are meant as "background" and you'd want them to have different quantums, hence why I'd rather skip the environment variable and go straight to an accessor.
Makes sense, and I agree.
But perhaps a `Thread.default_quantum = XX` would be needed too.
I think a `Thread.default_quantum=` would be very useful in the same way I mentioned the environment variable being useful. Specifically for apps where you can't specify the quantum, like with Puma / Sidekiq etc. I will make a patches and tickets for these. ---------------------------------------- Feature #20861: Add an environment variable for tuning the default thread quantum https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20861#change-110351 * Author: tenderlovemaking (Aaron Patterson) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- The default thread quantum is currently [hard coded at 100ms](https://github.com/ruby/ruby/blob/c7708d22c33040a74ea7ac683bf7407d3759edfe/t...). This can impact multithreaded systems that are trying to process Ruby level CPU bound work at the same time as IO work. I would like to add an environment variable `RUBY_THREAD_DEFAULT_QUANTUM_MS` that allows users to specify the default thread quantum (in milliseconds) via an environment variable. It defaults to our current default of 100ms. I've submitted the patch [here](https://github.com/ruby/ruby/pull/11981). Here is a Ruby program to demonstrate the problem: ```ruby def measure x = Process.clock_gettime(Process::CLOCK_MONOTONIC) yield Process.clock_gettime(Process::CLOCK_MONOTONIC) - x end def fib(n) if n < 2 n else fib(n-2) + fib(n-1) end end # find fib that takes ~500ms fib_i = 50.times.find { |i| measure { fib(i) } >= 0.05 } sleep_i = measure { fib(fib_i) } threads = [ Thread.new { 100.times { sleep(sleep_i) # sometimes stalled waiting for fib's quantum to finish } puts "done 1" }, Thread.new { 100.times { fib(fib_i) }; puts "done 2" }, ] # We expect the total time to be about 100 * sleep_i (~5 seconds) because # theoretically the sleep thread could be done nearly completely in parallel to # the fib thread. # # But because the `sleep` thread is iterating over the sleep call, it must wait # for the `fib` thread to complete its quantum, before it can start the next iteration. # # This means each sleep iteration could take up to `sleep_i + 100ms` # # We're calling that stalled time "waste" total = measure { threads.each(&:join) } waste = total - (sleep_i * 100) p TOTAL: total, WASTE: waste ``` The program has two threads. One thread is using CPU time by computing `fib` in a loop. The other thread is simulating IO time by calling `sleep` in a loop. When the `sleep` call completes, it can stall, waiting for the quantum in the fib thread to expire. That means that each iteration on sleep can actually take `sleep time + thread quantum`, or in this case ~600ms when we expected it to only take ~500ms. Ideally, the above program would take `500ms * 100` since all `sleep` calls should be able to execute in parallel with the `fib` calls. Of course this isn't true because the sleep thread must acquire the GVL before it can continue the next iteration, so there will always be _some_ overhead. This feature is for allowing people to tune that overhead. If we run this program with the default quantum the output looks like this: ``` $ ./miniruby -v fibtest.rb ruby 3.4.0dev (2024-11-01T14:49:50Z quantum-computing c7708d22c3) +PRISM [arm64-darwin24] done 2 done 1 {TOTAL: 12.672821999993175, WASTE: 4.960721996147186} ``` The output shows that our program spent about 5 seconds stalled, waiting to acquire the GVL. With this patch we can lower the default quantum, and the output is like this: ``` $ RUBY_THREAD_DEFAULT_QUANTUM_MS=10 ./miniruby -v fibtest.rb ruby 3.4.0dev (2024-11-01T22:06:35Z quantum-computing 087500643d) +PRISM [arm64-darwin24] done 2 done 1 {TOTAL: 8.898526000091806, WASTE: 1.4168260043952614} ``` Specifying the ENV to change the quantum to 10ms lowered our waste in the program to ~1.4 seconds. It's common for web applications to do mixed CPU and IO bound tasks in threads (see the Puma webserver), so it would be great if there was a way to customize the thread quantum depending on your application's workload. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/