[ruby-core:124808] [Ruby Misc#21877] DevMeeting-2026-03-17
Issue #21877 has been reported by mame (Yusuke Endoh). ---------------------------------------- Misc #21877: DevMeeting-2026-03-17 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21877 * Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- # The next dev meeting **Date: 2026/03/17 13:00-17:00** (JST) Log: *TBD* - Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker. - Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly. - Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue). - We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English. - All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers). - The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time. - *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please. # Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2026/03/14. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/
Issue #21877 has been updated by synacker (Mikhail Milovidov). * [Feature #21869] Add receive_all Method to Ractor API for Message Batching * This feature is essential for high‑load services because message batching is a highly efficient technique for reducing the number of expensive I/O requests and minimizing context switches between Ractors and business logic * The feature opens the way to vectorized message handlers, enabling batch processing of messages in a single handler invocation. * The proposal has received positive feedback from the community on GitHub, Reddit, and Discord * I have created a PR on GitHub: https://github.com/ruby/ruby/pull/16105 ---------------------------------------- Misc #21877: DevMeeting-2026-03-17 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21877#change-116432 * Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- # The next dev meeting **Date: 2026/03/17 13:00-17:00** (JST) Log: *TBD* - Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker. - Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly. - Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue). - We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English. - All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers). - The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time. - *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please. # Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2026/03/14. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/
Issue #21877 has been updated by Earlopain (Earlopain _). * [Feature #21875] Handling of trailing commas in lambda parameters (earlopain) * Followup to Feature #19107 (Allow trailing comma in method signature) * During implementation I noticed that lambdas in the style of `->()` never came up * In addition to the ticket description, @eregon created a good comparison in https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21875#note-2 * There are a few ways that a trailing comma could be handled but I think it would be best to just reject it. It's confusing and I don't think there is a use-case (if one comes up, we can reconsider). ---------------------------------------- Misc #21877: DevMeeting-2026-03-17 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21877#change-116497 * Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- # The next dev meeting **Date: 2026/03/17 13:00-17:00** (JST) Log: *TBD* - Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker. - Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly. - Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue). - We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English. - All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers). - The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time. - *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please. # Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2026/03/14. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/
Issue #21877 has been updated by tenderlovemaking (Aaron Patterson). * [Feature #21942] Allow reading class variables (`@@foo`) from non-main Ractors * Currently `@foo` is allowed to be read, but `@@foo` isn't allowed * Rails uses `@@foo` so I'd like to make them allowed ---------------------------------------- Misc #21877: DevMeeting-2026-03-17 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21877#change-116658 * Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- # The next dev meeting **Date: 2026/03/17 13:00-17:00** (JST) Log: *TBD* - Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker. - Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly. - Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue). - We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English. - All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers). - The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time. - *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please. # Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2026/03/14. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/
Issue #21877 has been updated by jneen (Jeanine Adkisson). - [Bug #21870] - Warning spam on code that definitely isn't a mistake (`/[\p{Word}\p{S}]/` and other overlapping properties) - Noted some possible ways forward in https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21870#note-20, including an easy path that I'm happy to take on - It looks like this was discussed in DevMeeting 2026-02-12 (https://github.com/ruby/dev-meeting-log/blob/master/2026/DevMeeting-2026-02-..., near the bottom), unclear if any decision was made - Could use some clarity on the best path forward, both short-term and long-term ---------------------------------------- Misc #21877: DevMeeting-2026-03-17 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21877#change-116659 * Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- # The next dev meeting **Date: 2026/03/17 13:00-17:00** (JST) Log: *TBD* - Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker. - Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly. - Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue). - We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English. - All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers). - The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time. - *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please. # Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2026/03/14. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/
Issue #21877 has been updated by jpl-coconut (Jacob Lacouture). * [Bug #21685] Unnecessary context-switching, especially bad on multi-core machines. (jpl-coconut) * Ruby exhibits excessive context switching around fast syscalls, which compromises performance. Microbenchmarks (linked from issue and PR) show the impact in isolation. * A small (+68 LOC) [PR fixes the issue.](https://github.com/ruby/ruby/pull/15840) Microbenchmark results are included. Two production rails apps (shopify and github) see ~10% overall perf improvements with the fix, which seem likely to generalize to others. * How to move this forward? * How to better facilitate future contributions/discussions? ---------------------------------------- Misc #21877: DevMeeting-2026-03-17 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21877#change-116692 * Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- # The next dev meeting **Date: 2026/03/17 13:00-17:00** (JST) Log: *TBD* - Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker. - Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly. - Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue). - We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English. - All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers). - The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time. - *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please. # Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2026/03/14. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/
Issue #21877 has been updated by byroot (Jean Boussier). * [Feature #21861] C API: expose `ruby_xfree_sized`, `ruby_xrealloc_sized`, etc (byroot) * C23 added `void free_sized(void *ptr, size_t old_size)`. * It has both speed and correctness benefits. * Several common allocators already support it, including latest `glibc` and the very popular `jemalloc`. * Maps well with `ruby_sized_xfree` used internally to provide the freed size to GC statistics. * I'd like to expose `ruby_xfree_sized` and `ruby_xrealloc_sized` to C extensions so they can make use of it too. * I'd also like to expose `RB_FREE_SIZED`, `RB_FREE_SIZED_N` and `RB_REALLOC_SIZED_N` macros for convenience. * [Feature #21853] Make Embedded TypedData a public API (byroot) * `RUBY_TYPED_EMBEDDABLE` was introduced in 3.3 as private API which help reduce memory usage and sped up numerous core types. * I'd like to expose this capability to C extensions, so they can get the same benefits. * I think the API is currently fine, but we can make change before making it public if desired. * [Feature #21852] New improved allocator function interface (byroot) * The current `typedef VALUE (*rb_alloc_func_t)(VALUE klass);` interface is too limited for Ractor and Embedded Typed Data * When duping or cloning some objects, the allocator do need to receive the source object to allocate in the correct size pool. * I propose to introduce `typedef VALUE (*rb_copy_alloc_func_t)(VALUE klass, VALUE other);` * I have a PR that does so without breaking backward compatibility: https://github.com/ruby/ruby/pull/15795 * I believe @ko1 would like to introduce more change for Ractors. ---------------------------------------- Misc #21877: DevMeeting-2026-03-17 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21877#change-116693 * Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- # The next dev meeting **Date: 2026/03/17 13:00-17:00** (JST) Log: *TBD* - Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker. - Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly. - Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue). - We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English. - All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers). - The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time. - *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please. # Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2026/03/14. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/
Issue #21877 has been updated by mame (Yusuke Endoh). Description updated Status changed from Open to Closed The next dev meeting will be held in-person, co-located with RubyKaigi. See https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21916 ---------------------------------------- Misc #21877: DevMeeting-2026-03-17 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21877#change-116762 * Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh) * Status: Closed ---------------------------------------- # The next dev meeting **Date: 2026/03/17 13:00-17:00** (JST) Log: https://github.com/ruby/dev-meeting-log/blob/master/2026/DevMeeting-2026-03-... - Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker. - Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly. - Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue). - We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English. - All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers). - The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time. - *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please. # Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2026/03/14. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/
participants (7)
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byroot (Jean Boussier) -
Earlopain (Earlopain _) -
jneen (Jeanine Adkisson) -
jpl-coconut (Jacob Lacouture) -
mame (Yusuke Endoh) -
synacker (Mikhail Milovidov) -
tenderlovemaking (Aaron Patterson)