[ruby-core:122258] [Ruby Misc#21367] Remove link to ruby-doc.org from www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/

Issue #21367 has been reported by p8 (Petrik de Heus). ---------------------------------------- Misc #21367: Remove link to ruby-doc.org from www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/ https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21367 * Author: p8 (Petrik de Heus) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- The ruby-doc.org domain no longer seems resolvable. ``` $ curl -I http://ruby-doc.org curl: (6) Could not resolve host: ruby-doc.org ``` The owner of the domain mentioned he wanted to sell it: https://ruby.social/@jamesbritt@mastodon.social/114375521600278606 This is probably a good time to remove it from https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/. This could also improve SEO for the official documentation. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

Issue #21367 has been updated by matheusrich (Matheus Richard). Agree. On a different note (and I'm not sure this is the right place to ask it), *could* we buy this domain and redirect to the official docs? ---------------------------------------- Misc #21367: Remove link to ruby-doc.org from www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/ https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21367#change-113404 * Author: p8 (Petrik de Heus) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- The ruby-doc.org domain no longer seems resolvable. ``` $ curl -I http://ruby-doc.org curl: (6) Could not resolve host: ruby-doc.org ``` The owner of the domain mentioned he wanted to sell it: https://ruby.social/@jamesbritt@mastodon.social/114375521600278606 This is probably a good time to remove it from https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/. This could also improve SEO for the official documentation. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

Issue #21367 has been updated by nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada). It looks there are 95 links 22 unique URIs in www.ruby-lang.org. ``` http://ruby-doc.org http://ruby-doc.org/core-1.8.7/String.html http://ruby-doc.org/docs/ruby-doc-bundle/FAQ/FAQ.html http://ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.0.0/libdoc/dl/rdoc/DL.html http://ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.1.8/libdoc/dl/rdoc/DL.html http://ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.2.4/libdoc/dl/rdoc/DL.html http://www.ruby-doc.org/core http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-1.9.3/IO.html http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-2.0/Enumerable.html http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-2.0/Enumerator.html http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-2.0/Module.html http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-2.0/Range.html http://www.ruby-doc.org/core/ http://www.ruby-doc.org/docs/ApprendreProgrammer/Apprendre_%E0_Programmer.pd... http://www.ruby-doc.org/docs/ProgrammingRuby/ http://www.ruby-doc.org/stdlib http://www.ruby-doc.org/stdlib/ http://www.ruby-doc.org/stdlib/libdoc/rdoc/rdoc/index.html https://ruby-doc.org/ https://ruby-doc.org/core-2.4.0/Thread.html https://www.ruby-doc.org/ https://www.ruby-doc.org/docs/ProgrammingRuby/ ``` ---------------------------------------- Misc #21367: Remove link to ruby-doc.org from www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/ https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21367#change-113412 * Author: p8 (Petrik de Heus) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- The ruby-doc.org domain no longer seems resolvable. ``` $ curl -I http://ruby-doc.org curl: (6) Could not resolve host: ruby-doc.org ``` The owner of the domain mentioned he wanted to sell it: https://ruby.social/@jamesbritt@mastodon.social/114375521600278606 This is probably a good time to remove it from https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/. This could also improve SEO for the official documentation. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

It appears that it has already been purchased as I tried earlier this morning to do the same. I do not know who currently owns it, as it has domain privacy enabled and is currently down. On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 8:14 PM nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada) via ruby-core < ruby-core@ml.ruby-lang.org> wrote:
Issue #21367 has been updated by nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada).
It looks there are 95 links 22 unique URIs in www.ruby-lang.org.
``` http://ruby-doc.org http://ruby-doc.org/core-1.8.7/String.html http://ruby-doc.org/docs/ruby-doc-bundle/FAQ/FAQ.html http://ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.0.0/libdoc/dl/rdoc/DL.html http://ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.1.8/libdoc/dl/rdoc/DL.html http://ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.2.4/libdoc/dl/rdoc/DL.html http://www.ruby-doc.org/core http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-1.9.3/IO.html http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-2.0/Enumerable.html http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-2.0/Enumerator.html http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-2.0/Module.html http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-2.0/Range.html http://www.ruby-doc.org/core/
http://www.ruby-doc.org/docs/ApprendreProgrammer/Apprendre_%E0_Programmer.pd... http://www.ruby-doc.org/docs/ProgrammingRuby/ http://www.ruby-doc.org/stdlib http://www.ruby-doc.org/stdlib/ http://www.ruby-doc.org/stdlib/libdoc/rdoc/rdoc/index.html https://ruby-doc.org/ https://ruby-doc.org/core-2.4.0/Thread.html https://www.ruby-doc.org/ https://www.ruby-doc.org/docs/ProgrammingRuby/ ```
---------------------------------------- Misc #21367: Remove link to ruby-doc.org from www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/ https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21367#change-113412
* Author: p8 (Petrik de Heus) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- The ruby-doc.org domain no longer seems resolvable. ``` $ curl -I http://ruby-doc.org curl: (6) Could not resolve host: ruby-doc.org ```
The owner of the domain mentioned he wanted to sell it: https://ruby.social/@jamesbritt@mastodon.social/114375521600278606
This is probably a good time to remove it from https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/. This could also improve SEO for the official documentation.
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Issue #21367 has been updated by baweaver (Brandon Weaver). I had tried to purchase it earlier today, but it appears that it has already been bought and I cannot see who owns it as it has domain privacy on. Let us hope the buyer has good intentions. ---------------------------------------- Misc #21367: Remove link to ruby-doc.org from www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/ https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21367#change-113414 * Author: p8 (Petrik de Heus) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- The ruby-doc.org domain no longer seems resolvable. ``` $ curl -I http://ruby-doc.org curl: (6) Could not resolve host: ruby-doc.org ``` The owner of the domain mentioned he wanted to sell it: https://ruby.social/@jamesbritt@mastodon.social/114375521600278606 This is probably a good time to remove it from https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/. This could also improve SEO for the official documentation. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

Issue #21367 has been updated by nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada). Some URIs in the above list are just in footnotes but unused now. And the toplevel of the site could be simply removed as there are links to docs.r-l.o already, I think. But not sure about `/core` and `/stdlib`, especially to version older than 2.1. ---------------------------------------- Misc #21367: Remove link to ruby-doc.org from www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/ https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21367#change-113427 * Author: p8 (Petrik de Heus) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- The ruby-doc.org domain no longer seems resolvable. ``` $ curl -I http://ruby-doc.org curl: (6) Could not resolve host: ruby-doc.org ``` The owner of the domain mentioned he wanted to sell it: https://ruby.social/@jamesbritt@mastodon.social/114375521600278606 This is probably a good time to remove it from https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/. This could also improve SEO for the official documentation. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

Issue #21367 has been updated by st0012 (Stan Lo). Checking with web.archive.org, a few links were already 404 many years ago (e.g. 2016), so we can simply remove them IMO. For those that are still indexed in the last 10 years, I think some of them can be replaced with a link to their web archive pages, with updated texts like "Original text (web archive)". WDYT? ---------------------------------------- Misc #21367: Remove link to ruby-doc.org from www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/ https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21367#change-113428 * Author: p8 (Petrik de Heus) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- The ruby-doc.org domain no longer seems resolvable. ``` $ curl -I http://ruby-doc.org curl: (6) Could not resolve host: ruby-doc.org ``` The owner of the domain mentioned he wanted to sell it: https://ruby.social/@jamesbritt@mastodon.social/114375521600278606 This is probably a good time to remove it from https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/. This could also improve SEO for the official documentation. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

Issue #21367 has been updated by p8 (Petrik de Heus). Thanks Nobu! I agree with Stan that some of the links to `/core` and `/stdlib` could be replaced with a link to the Internet Archive. For example: https://web.archive.org/web/20190405070846/http://ruby-doc.org/stdlib-2.0.0/... matheusrich (Matheus Richard) wrote in #note-1:
Agree. On a different note (and I'm not sure this is the right place to ask it), *could* we buy this domain and redirect to the official docs?
I'm not sure buying every third party domain that has better SEO is something we should encourage. From what I've read ruby-doc.org was an attempt by the community to improve the Ruby documentation, but in the end it did the opposite (outdated documentation, confusion about what the official docs are, and now deadlinks). Let's hope improvements to the official docs (and the end of ruby-doc.org) will put the official docs at the top of search results again. ---------------------------------------- Misc #21367: Remove link to ruby-doc.org from www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/ https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21367#change-113429 * Author: p8 (Petrik de Heus) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- The ruby-doc.org domain no longer seems resolvable. ``` $ curl -I http://ruby-doc.org curl: (6) Could not resolve host: ruby-doc.org ``` The owner of the domain mentioned he wanted to sell it: https://ruby.social/@jamesbritt@mastodon.social/114375521600278606 This is probably a good time to remove it from https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/. This could also improve SEO for the official documentation. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

Issue #21367 has been updated by matheusrich (Matheus Richard). @p8 I didn't mean buying it because it has good SEO. I meant buying it to keep some level of compatibility (at least it would redirect to the official docs) and to prevent someone with bad intentions to do something with it while using Ruby's name. ---------------------------------------- Misc #21367: Remove link to ruby-doc.org from www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/ https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21367#change-113430 * Author: p8 (Petrik de Heus) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- The ruby-doc.org domain no longer seems resolvable. ``` $ curl -I http://ruby-doc.org curl: (6) Could not resolve host: ruby-doc.org ``` The owner of the domain mentioned he wanted to sell it: https://ruby.social/@jamesbritt@mastodon.social/114375521600278606 This is probably a good time to remove it from https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/. This could also improve SEO for the official documentation. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

Issue #21367 has been updated by p8 (Petrik de Heus). @matheusrich keeping those links working would have been nice. From the Mastodon thread it seems he was asking 10k which is a bit much for something that was a community benefit. ---------------------------------------- Misc #21367: Remove link to ruby-doc.org from www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/ https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21367#change-113431 * Author: p8 (Petrik de Heus) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- The ruby-doc.org domain no longer seems resolvable. ``` $ curl -I http://ruby-doc.org curl: (6) Could not resolve host: ruby-doc.org ``` The owner of the domain mentioned he wanted to sell it: https://ruby.social/@jamesbritt@mastodon.social/114375521600278606 This is probably a good time to remove it from https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/. This could also improve SEO for the official documentation. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

Issue #21367 has been updated by hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA). Status changed from Open to Closed https://github.com/ruby/www.ruby-lang.org/pull/3576 ---------------------------------------- Misc #21367: Remove link to ruby-doc.org from www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/ https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21367#change-113446 * Author: p8 (Petrik de Heus) * Status: Closed ---------------------------------------- The ruby-doc.org domain no longer seems resolvable. ``` $ curl -I http://ruby-doc.org curl: (6) Could not resolve host: ruby-doc.org ``` The owner of the domain mentioned he wanted to sell it: https://ruby.social/@jamesbritt@mastodon.social/114375521600278606 This is probably a good time to remove it from https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/documentation/. This could also improve SEO for the official documentation. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/
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baweaver (Brandon Weaver)
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Brandon Weaver
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hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA)
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matheusrich (Matheus Richard)
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nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada)
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p8 (Petrik de Heus)
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st0012 (Stan Lo)