[ruby-core:126430] [Ruby Misc#22249] DevMeeting-2026-09-10
Issue #22249 has been reported by mame (Yusuke Endoh). ---------------------------------------- Misc #22249: DevMeeting-2026-09-10 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/22249 * Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- # The next dev meeting **Date: 2026/09/10 13:00-17:00** (JST) Log: *TBD* - Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker. - Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly. - Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue). - We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English. - All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers). - The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time. - *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please. # Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2026/09/07. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/
Issue #22249 has been updated by byroot (Jean Boussier). * [Feature #22232] Deprecate `RHASH_TBL` and associated APIs (byroot) * I would like to deprecate `RHASH_TBL`, `RHASH_TBL_RAW` and `rb_hash_bulk_insert_into_st_table`. * It's a dangerous API because it allow bypassing write barriers * It restrict evolution of `RHash`, as we must always be able to convert a Hash into a public `st_table`. * gem-codesearch only revealed very old and low download gems. * All codesearch results have an equivalent `rb_hash_*` API, proving `RHASH_TBL` is useless. * [Feature #22236] New API for adjustable JIT warmup (byroot) * JIT warmup can be a challenge in production. * After a deploy JIT warmup can cause high latency, so it may need to be tuned to avoid timeouts, queuing, etc. * Current tuning parameters like `--yjit-call-threshold` are hard to reason about, imprecise and need frequent update as the application changes. * I'd like YJIT, and potentially ZJIT to have an adjustable `max_compile_time_ns`. * When `RubyVM::YJIT.runtime_stats[:compile_time_ns]` goes over `max_compile_time_ns` stop compiling. * When `max_compile_time_ns` is assigned to a value higher than current `compile_time_ns` re-enable compilation. * It only need to be best effort. * See ticket for example usage. ---------------------------------------- Misc #22249: DevMeeting-2026-09-10 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/22249#change-118578 * Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- # The next dev meeting **Date: 2026/09/10 13:00-17:00** (JST) Log: *TBD* - Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker. - Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly. - Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue). - We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English. - All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers). - The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time. - *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please. # Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2026/09/07. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/
Issue #22249 has been updated by chucke (Tiago Cardoso). * [Feature #13677] Add hostname to "Name or service not known (SocketError)" * PR open in github: https://github.com/ruby/ruby/pull/16918 * Changed message format as per suggestion in https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/13677#note-12 * [Feature #21619] logger Context API * Putting it back here for lack of feedback last time around. * PR in github: https://github.com/ruby/logger/pull/132 . Mostly ready, main contentious point being whether the context store should be configurable or not. ---------------------------------------- Misc #22249: DevMeeting-2026-09-10 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/22249#change-118581 * Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- # The next dev meeting **Date: 2026/09/10 13:00-17:00** (JST) Log: *TBD* - Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker. - Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly. - Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue). - We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English. - All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers). - The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time. - *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please. # Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2026/09/07. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/
Issue #22249 has been updated by himura467 (Akito Shitara). * [Feature #22056] Zero-Copy String Constructor Backed by Arbitrary Ruby Object (himura467) * A C API creating a String that references memory owned by another Ruby object. * It was blocked on the `RSTRING_PTR()` NUL-termination invariant (https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/22056#note-19); https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/22056#note-20 proposes that only new opt-in APIs produce Strings that are not NUL-terminated. * Would like to ask whether this direction is acceptable, and whether the C API can proceed on it. ---------------------------------------- Misc #22249: DevMeeting-2026-09-10 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/22249#change-118627 * Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- # The next dev meeting **Date: 2026/09/10 13:00-17:00** (JST) Log: *TBD* - Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker. - Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly. - Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue). - We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English. - All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers). - The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time. - *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please. # Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2026/09/07. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/
Issue #22249 has been updated by hasumikin (hitoshi hasumi). * [Feature #22279] Region (Length / Range) Arguments for String Bit Operations (hasumikin) * Follow-up to [Feature #22118] (String bit operations, accepted): adds `(offset, length)` and Range overloads to `bit_set` / `bit_clear` / `bit_flip` / `bit_count`. * Semantics follow #22118: mutations raise `IndexError` on any overrun without modifying bits, `bit_count` clamps and returns `0` for an empty intersection, negative offset is `IndexError`, negative length is `ArgumentError`. * Points I'd like feedback on: (1) `bit_count(offset)` with a lone offset raises `ArgumentError` rather than meaning "to the end"; (2) an empty region for mutations still requires `offset <= bit_size`, mirroring `"abc"[4, 0]` being `nil`. ---------------------------------------- Misc #22249: DevMeeting-2026-09-10 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/22249#change-118728 * Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- # The next dev meeting **Date: 2026/09/10 13:00-17:00** (JST) Log: *TBD* - Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker. - Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly. - Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue). - We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English. - All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers). - The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time. - *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please. # Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2026/09/07. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/
Issue #22249 has been updated by tekknolagi (Maxwell Bernstein). * [https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/22272] Propose Kevin Menard (@nirvdrum) as a core committer (tekknolagi) * I am proposing we make Kevin Menard, a long-time and frequent contributor, a committer. * This will also help ZJIT: it would be nice if he could merge PRs. ---------------------------------------- Misc #22249: DevMeeting-2026-09-10 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/22249#change-118775 * Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- # The next dev meeting **Date: 2026/09/10 13:00-17:00** (JST) Log: *TBD* - Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker. - Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly. - Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue). - We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English. - All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers). - The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time. - *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please. # Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2026/09/07. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/
Issue #22249 has been updated by jhawthorn (John Hawthorn). * [Bug #22291] Instance variables should be forbidden on Ractor-shareable objects * Currently reading an ivar from a Ractor-shareable, but **not frozen**, object is only allowed on the main Ractor. But freezing these objects then incorrectly allows other Ractors to read the (possibly Ractor-unsafe) ivars. * I propose we forbid setting instance variables on shareable Ractor objects. * Currently, Ractor, ENV, Shareable proc will forbid setting instance variables (no change to Class/Module which have special rules) * Is this acceptable? ---------------------------------------- Misc #22249: DevMeeting-2026-09-10 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/22249#change-118812 * Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- # The next dev meeting **Date: 2026/09/10 13:00-17:00** (JST) Log: *TBD* - Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker. - Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly. - Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue). - We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English. - All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers). - The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time. - *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please. # Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2026/09/07. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/
Issue #22249 has been updated by ufuk (Ufuk Kayserilioglu). * [Feature #22300] `Ractor.check_isolation`: report Ractor isolation violations as warnings instead of raising (ufuk) * The proposal gives the ecosystem two things it does not have today for Ractor-safety: 1. a burn-down list, to make a codebase Ractor-safe; 2. a ratchet, to keep it Ractor-safe. * The attached patch has been used to find and burn-down Ractor-safety violations in the Rails codebase, as well as some internal Shopify codebases. * Can we ship a version of this in Ruby 4.1? ---------------------------------------- Misc #22249: DevMeeting-2026-09-10 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/22249#change-118823 * Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- # The next dev meeting **Date: 2026/09/10 13:00-17:00** (JST) Log: *TBD* - Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker. - Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly. - Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue). - We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English. - All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers). - The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time. - *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please. # Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2026/09/07. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/
Issue #22249 has been updated by jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans). * [Bug #22273] Aliasing doesn't interact well with Module#prepend (jeremyevans0) * Currently, you can an alias of a method in a prepended module. * This allows `super` to call into a descendant instead of an ancestor, from the perspective of the method calling `super`. * I think this should be rejected. `alias`/`alias_method` should only consider ancestor methods, not descendant methods, so they should not consider methods in prepended modules. * [Feature #22266] Stop warning for duplicate keywords in splatted literal hashes (jeremyevans0) * Ruby does not generally warn for duplicate keywords in splatted hashes. * However, Ruby will warn if the splatted hash is a literal hash. * I think Ruby should be consistent and only warn for duplicate keywords in the same hash, and not for splatted hashes, even if the splatted hash is a literal hash. ---------------------------------------- Misc #22249: DevMeeting-2026-09-10 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/22249#change-118824 * Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- # The next dev meeting **Date: 2026/09/10 13:00-17:00** (JST) Log: *TBD* - Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker. - Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly. - Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue). - We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English. - All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers). - The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time. - *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please. # Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2026/09/07. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/
Issue #22249 has been updated by nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada). * [Feature #22134] Faster rb_scan_args() for keyword args (optimization) (nobu) * Luke proposes `:^` to avoid keyword hash duplication and `rb_get_kwargs_const` for non-destructive lookup. * I suggest `RB_SCAN_ARGS_BORROW_KEYWORDS` (`"^"`) as both a format fragment and a feature detection macro. * I also suggest `rb_lookup_kwargs` / `rb_extract_kwargs`, retaining `rb_get_kwargs` as a compatibility alias; my prototype showed 1.13–1.35x speedups in successful keyword-parsing microbenchmarks. ---------------------------------------- Misc #22249: DevMeeting-2026-09-10 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/22249#change-118844 * Author: mame (Yusuke Endoh) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- # The next dev meeting **Date: 2026/09/10 13:00-17:00** (JST) Log: *TBD* - Dev meeting *IS NOT* a decision-making place. All decisions should be done at the bug tracker. - Dev meeting is a place we can ask Matz, nobu, nurse and other developers directly. - Matz is a very busy person. Take this opportunity to ask him. If you can not attend, other attendees can ask instead of you (if attendees can understand your issue). - We will write a record of the discussion in the file or to each ticket in English. - All activities are best-effort (keep in mind that most of us are volunteer developers). - The date, time and place of the meeting are scheduled according to when/where we can reserve Matz's time. - *DO NOT* discuss then on this ticket, please. # Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2026/09/07. We hold a preparatory meeting to create an agenda a few days before the dev-meeting. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/
participants (10)
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byroot (Jean Boussier) -
chucke (Tiago Cardoso) -
hasumikin (hitoshi hasumi) -
himura467 (Akito Shitara) -
jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans) -
jhawthorn (John Hawthorn) -
mame (Yusuke Endoh) -
nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada) -
tekknolagi (Maxwell Bernstein) -
ufuk (Ufuk Kayserilioglu)