[ruby-core:117588] [Ruby master Misc#20436] DevMeeting at RubyKaigi 2024

Issue #20436 has been reported by ko1 (Koichi Sasada). ---------------------------------------- Misc #20436: DevMeeting at RubyKaigi 2024 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20436 * Author: ko1 (Koichi Sasada) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- RubyKaigi 2024 will be at Okinawa, Japan, May 15th - 17th. We would like to try to hold a face-to-face dev meeting at Okinawa. (@matz will also participate!) * Date: 2023/05/14 (Tue.) 14:00-18:00 (The day before RubyKaigi) * Location: SAKURA innobase Okinawa, Haseko Naha Building 1F, 1-2-13 Matsuyama, Naha City, Okinawa * Near by RubyKaigi venue (not a RubyKaigi venue). * Japanese page: https://www.sakura.ad.jp/innobase/ ### Program * 1:45pm door open * 2:00pm opening and self introduction * 2:30pm discuss topics * 5:00pm closing and free time (closing time is depends on topics) * 5:50pm door close There are several RubyKaigi related events after that so let's continue on the party: * [RubyKaigi 2024 前夜祭 Asakusa.rb Welcome Drinkup - connpass](https://andpad.connpass.com/event/313590/) ### How to participate Open to any RubyKaigi attendees who have a commit bit or who have a topic they particularly want to discuss. Please write your name on this spreadsheet to count the number of participants. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qXuvXvigP80CFNwseJDKm2YNkpQmzSg9WSI1... ### Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2023/05/10. I'll ask Matz which should be discussed on this meeting and reorder them. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

Issue #20436 has been updated by Eregon (Benoit Daloze). * [Feature #6648] Provide a standard API for retrieving all command-line flags passed to Ruby (eregon) * @Dan0042 made a clear proposal in https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/6648#note-10 can we accept it? * This has been needed for a while and there are 3 real use cases presented on the ticket. ---------------------------------------- Misc #20436: DevMeeting at RubyKaigi 2024 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20436#change-108025 * Author: ko1 (Koichi Sasada) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- RubyKaigi 2024 will be at Okinawa, Japan, May 15th - 17th. We would like to try to hold a face-to-face dev meeting at Okinawa. (@matz will also participate!) * Date: 2023/05/14 (Tue.) 14:00-18:00 (The day before RubyKaigi) * Location: SAKURA innobase Okinawa, Haseko Naha Building 1F, 1-2-13 Matsuyama, Naha City, Okinawa * Near by RubyKaigi venue (not a RubyKaigi venue). * Japanese page: https://www.sakura.ad.jp/innobase/ ### Program * 1:45pm door open * 2:00pm opening and self introduction * 2:30pm discuss topics * 5:00pm closing and free time (closing time is depends on topics) * 5:50pm door close There are several RubyKaigi related events after that so let's continue on the party: * [RubyKaigi 2024 前夜祭 Asakusa.rb Welcome Drinkup - connpass](https://andpad.connpass.com/event/313590/) ### How to participate Open to any RubyKaigi attendees who have a commit bit or who have a topic they particularly want to discuss. Please write your name on this spreadsheet to count the number of participants. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qXuvXvigP80CFNwseJDKm2YNkpQmzSg9WSI1... ### Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2023/05/10. I'll ask Matz which should be discussed on this meeting and reorder them. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

Issue #20436 has been updated by andrykonchin (Andrew Konchin). [Misc #20406] Question about Regexp encoding negotiation (andrykonchin) - It isn't clear enough how a Regexp encoding (what `Regexp#encoding` method returns) is calculated in case an encoding modifier (e.g. `u`, `e`, etc) is specified. - The documentation states that a Regexp with only `US-ASCII` characters has `US-ASCII` encoding, otherwise a regular expression is assumed to use the source encoding. This can be overridden with encoding modifiers. - But these rules seem don't work in the following example: `/#{} a/e` - it's supposed to have `EUC-JP` encoding but actually has `US-ASCII`. [Misc #20407] Question about applying encoding modifier to an interpolated Regexp (andrykonchin) - It isn't clear enough how a Regexp encoding (that Regexp#encoding method returns) is calculated in case an encoding modifier (e.g. `u`, `e`, etc) is specified to a Regexp with interpolation (e.g. `/a #{ "b".encode("windows-1251") } c/e`). - The encoding modifier might be applied in some cases and might be not in other ones what seems confusing at first glance. - It seems result depends on a source encoding, characters of the Regexp literal fragments and encoding of Regexp interpolated fragments as well. [Bug #20421] String#index and String#byteindex don't clear `$~` when offset > size (or bytesize) (andrykonchin) - It seems `String#{index,rindex,byteindex,byterindex}` methods when called with Regexp argument and `offset` out of scope should clear the `$~` global variable. - But `String#index` and `String#byteindex` don't clear `$~` when `offset` > size, only when `offset` < `-size`. [Bug #20416] IO#read doesn't preserve buffer encoding if `maxlen = nil` (andrykonchin) - `IO#read` and similar methods when called with buffer argument preserve its encoding. - But `IO#read` doesn't do so in case the `maxlen` argument is `nil`. [Bug #20319] Singleton class is being frozen lazily in some cases (andrykonchin) - When an object becomes frozen (with `#freeze` method call) only its own singleton class becomes frozen immediately. - Classes in the singleton classes chain become frozen only when they are returned to user with `#singleton_class` method call. - The object's singleton class' singleton class (and so on) doesn't become frozen even if it was already instantiated - This lazy freezing can be observed by a user when he gets a singleton class of the object's singleton class before freezing the object. After freezing the object the instantiated singleton class is still not frozen. - There might be several options (1) don't change anything, 2) freeze all the instantiated singleton classes in a chain immediately or 3) don't freeze singleton classes in a chain at all and stop freezing even an object's singleton class) and there is a PR with fix (https://github.com/ruby/ruby/pull/10245) but it's unclear what option is the best one. ---------------------------------------- Misc #20436: DevMeeting at RubyKaigi 2024 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20436#change-108026 * Author: ko1 (Koichi Sasada) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- RubyKaigi 2024 will be at Okinawa, Japan, May 15th - 17th. We would like to try to hold a face-to-face dev meeting at Okinawa. (@matz will also participate!) * Date: 2023/05/14 (Tue.) 14:00-18:00 (The day before RubyKaigi) * Location: SAKURA innobase Okinawa, Haseko Naha Building 1F, 1-2-13 Matsuyama, Naha City, Okinawa * Near by RubyKaigi venue (not a RubyKaigi venue). * Japanese page: https://www.sakura.ad.jp/innobase/ ### Program * 1:45pm door open * 2:00pm opening and self introduction * 2:30pm discuss topics * 5:00pm closing and free time (closing time is depends on topics) * 5:50pm door close There are several RubyKaigi related events after that so let's continue on the party: * [RubyKaigi 2024 前夜祭 Asakusa.rb Welcome Drinkup - connpass](https://andpad.connpass.com/event/313590/) ### How to participate Open to any RubyKaigi attendees who have a commit bit or who have a topic they particularly want to discuss. Please write your name on this spreadsheet to count the number of participants. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qXuvXvigP80CFNwseJDKm2YNkpQmzSg9WSI1... ### Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2023/05/10. I'll ask Matz which should be discussed on this meeting and reorder them. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

Issue #20436 has been updated by kddnewton (Kevin Newton). * [Misc #20434] Deprecate encoding-related regular expression modifiers (kddnewton) * The relationship between regexp encoding, file encoding, string encoding, and matchee encoding is very confusing. * A migration path is proposed in the ticket. ---------------------------------------- Misc #20436: DevMeeting at RubyKaigi 2024 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20436#change-108027 * Author: ko1 (Koichi Sasada) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- RubyKaigi 2024 will be at Okinawa, Japan, May 15th - 17th. We would like to try to hold a face-to-face dev meeting at Okinawa. (@matz will also participate!) * Date: 2023/05/14 (Tue.) 14:00-18:00 (The day before RubyKaigi) * Location: SAKURA innobase Okinawa, Haseko Naha Building 1F, 1-2-13 Matsuyama, Naha City, Okinawa * Near by RubyKaigi venue (not a RubyKaigi venue). * Japanese page: https://www.sakura.ad.jp/innobase/ ### Program * 1:45pm door open * 2:00pm opening and self introduction * 2:30pm discuss topics * 5:00pm closing and free time (closing time is depends on topics) * 5:50pm door close There are several RubyKaigi related events after that so let's continue on the party: * [RubyKaigi 2024 前夜祭 Asakusa.rb Welcome Drinkup - connpass](https://andpad.connpass.com/event/313590/) ### How to participate Open to any RubyKaigi attendees who have a commit bit or who have a topic they particularly want to discuss. Please write your name on this spreadsheet to count the number of participants. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qXuvXvigP80CFNwseJDKm2YNkpQmzSg9WSI1... ### Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2023/05/10. I'll ask Matz which should be discussed on this meeting and reorder them. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

Issue #20436 has been updated by tenderlovemaking (Aaron Patterson). * [Feature #20425] Optimize forwarding callers and callees * Introduces optimization to avoid allocations regarding `...` callers and callees * Stack size for a method like `def foo(...)` depends on the caller (`foo(1,2)` has different stack size than `foo(1)`) * Ko1 is worried about complex code and incompatibilities because of stack size and offered a different solution * Aaron thinks Ko1's solution is of similar complexity but moves complexity to GC * Can we try the current solution and refactor / revert if there are incompatibilities? ---------------------------------------- Misc #20436: DevMeeting at RubyKaigi 2024 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20436#change-108057 * Author: ko1 (Koichi Sasada) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- RubyKaigi 2024 will be at Okinawa, Japan, May 15th - 17th. We would like to try to hold a face-to-face dev meeting at Okinawa. (@matz will also participate!) * Date: 2023/05/14 (Tue.) 14:00-18:00 (The day before RubyKaigi) * Location: SAKURA innobase Okinawa, Haseko Naha Building 1F, 1-2-13 Matsuyama, Naha City, Okinawa * Near by RubyKaigi venue (not a RubyKaigi venue). * Japanese page: https://www.sakura.ad.jp/innobase/ ### Program * 1:45pm door open * 2:00pm opening and self introduction * 2:30pm discuss topics * 5:00pm closing and free time (closing time is depends on topics) * 5:50pm door close There are several RubyKaigi related events after that so let's continue on the party: * [RubyKaigi 2024 前夜祭 Asakusa.rb Welcome Drinkup - connpass](https://andpad.connpass.com/event/313590/) ### How to participate Open to any RubyKaigi attendees who have a commit bit or who have a topic they particularly want to discuss. Please write your name on this spreadsheet to count the number of participants. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qXuvXvigP80CFNwseJDKm2YNkpQmzSg9WSI1... ### Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2023/05/10. I'll ask Matz which should be discussed on this meeting and reorder them. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

Issue #20436 has been updated by eightbitraptor (Matthew Valentine-House). - [Feature #20443] Allow Major GC's to be disabled - Introduces the ability to "turn off" Major GC's, so that only minors will run. This is useful for applications that are using Out-of-band GC. - Discussion has focussed around the method names, can we make a decision about what the interface should be? Options proposed are: - New methods, eg. `GC#disable_major`, `GC#enable_major`, `GC#need_major?`, `GC#disable_major_gc` etc. - Keyword Args, eg. `GC#disable(type: major)` - @eightbitraptor and @byroot prefer new methods that will `respond_to?`, and are able to be undefined. ---------------------------------------- Misc #20436: DevMeeting at RubyKaigi 2024 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20436#change-108115 * Author: ko1 (Koichi Sasada) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- RubyKaigi 2024 will be at Okinawa, Japan, May 15th - 17th. We would like to try to hold a face-to-face dev meeting at Okinawa. (@matz will also participate!) * Date: 2023/05/14 (Tue.) 14:00-18:00 (The day before RubyKaigi) * Location: SAKURA innobase Okinawa, Haseko Naha Building 1F, 1-2-13 Matsuyama, Naha City, Okinawa * Near by RubyKaigi venue (not a RubyKaigi venue). * Japanese page: https://www.sakura.ad.jp/innobase/ ### Program * 1:45pm door open * 2:00pm opening and self introduction * 2:30pm discuss topics * 5:00pm closing and free time (closing time is depends on topics) * 5:50pm door close There are several RubyKaigi related events after that so let's continue on the party: * [RubyKaigi 2024 前夜祭 Asakusa.rb Welcome Drinkup - connpass](https://andpad.connpass.com/event/313590/) ### How to participate Open to any RubyKaigi attendees who have a commit bit or who have a topic they particularly want to discuss. Please write your name on this spreadsheet to count the number of participants. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qXuvXvigP80CFNwseJDKm2YNkpQmzSg9WSI1... ### Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2023/05/10. I'll ask Matz which should be discussed on this meeting and reorder them. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

Issue #20436 has been updated by Eregon (Benoit Daloze). * [Bug #20455] rb_errinfo() inconsistent with $! in the caller Ruby code * Could we make them consistent? Or completely separate? * If not, what is the current semantics (in English) and is it something we want to keep? ---------------------------------------- Misc #20436: DevMeeting at RubyKaigi 2024 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20436#change-108131 * Author: ko1 (Koichi Sasada) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- RubyKaigi 2024 will be at Okinawa, Japan, May 15th - 17th. We would like to try to hold a face-to-face dev meeting at Okinawa. (@matz will also participate!) * Date: 2023/05/14 (Tue.) 14:00-18:00 (The day before RubyKaigi) * Location: SAKURA innobase Okinawa, Haseko Naha Building 1F, 1-2-13 Matsuyama, Naha City, Okinawa * Near by RubyKaigi venue (not a RubyKaigi venue). * Japanese page: https://www.sakura.ad.jp/innobase/ ### Program * 1:45pm door open * 2:00pm opening and self introduction * 2:30pm discuss topics * 5:00pm closing and free time (closing time is depends on topics) * 5:50pm door close There are several RubyKaigi related events after that so let's continue on the party: * [RubyKaigi 2024 前夜祭 Asakusa.rb Welcome Drinkup - connpass](https://andpad.connpass.com/event/313590/) ### How to participate Open to any RubyKaigi attendees who have a commit bit or who have a topic they particularly want to discuss. Please write your name on this spreadsheet to count the number of participants. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qXuvXvigP80CFNwseJDKm2YNkpQmzSg9WSI1... ### Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2023/05/10. I'll ask Matz which should be discussed on this meeting and reorder them. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

Issue #20436 has been updated by peterzhu2118 (Peter Zhu). * [Feature #20470] Extract Ruby's Garbage Collector (peterzhu2118) * Splits GC into two files `gc.c` and `gc_impl.c`. * `gc.c` only contains code not specific to Ruby GC. * `gc_impl.c` contains the implementation of Ruby's GC. * `gc_impl.c` only uses public APIs in Ruby and a limited set of functions exposed in `gc.c`. This allows us to build `gc_impl.c` independently of Ruby and plug Ruby's GC into itself. ---------------------------------------- Misc #20436: DevMeeting at RubyKaigi 2024 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20436#change-108174 * Author: ko1 (Koichi Sasada) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- RubyKaigi 2024 will be at Okinawa, Japan, May 15th - 17th. We would like to try to hold a face-to-face dev meeting at Okinawa. (@matz will also participate!) * Date: 2023/05/14 (Tue.) 14:00-18:00 (The day before RubyKaigi) * Location: SAKURA innobase Okinawa, Haseko Naha Building 1F, 1-2-13 Matsuyama, Naha City, Okinawa * Near by RubyKaigi venue (not a RubyKaigi venue). * Japanese page: https://www.sakura.ad.jp/innobase/ ### Program * 1:45pm door open * 2:00pm opening and self introduction * 2:30pm discuss topics * 5:00pm closing and free time (closing time is depends on topics) * 5:50pm door close There are several RubyKaigi related events after that so let's continue on the party: * [RubyKaigi 2024 前夜祭 Asakusa.rb Welcome Drinkup - connpass](https://andpad.connpass.com/event/313590/) ### How to participate Open to any RubyKaigi attendees who have a commit bit or who have a topic they particularly want to discuss. Please write your name on this spreadsheet to count the number of participants. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qXuvXvigP80CFNwseJDKm2YNkpQmzSg9WSI1... ### Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2023/05/10. I'll ask Matz which should be discussed on this meeting and reorder them. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

Issue #20436 has been updated by byroot (Jean Boussier). - [Feature #20415] Precompute literal String hash code during compilation (byroot / etienne) - Simple optimization that closes most of the performance gap between symbol indexed hashes and string indexed ones for string literals. - Multiple ways it could be implemented, either can be done for all string literals or just the ones that have enough free space. ---------------------------------------- Misc #20436: DevMeeting at RubyKaigi 2024 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20436#change-108187 * Author: ko1 (Koichi Sasada) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- RubyKaigi 2024 will be at Okinawa, Japan, May 15th - 17th. We would like to try to hold a face-to-face dev meeting at Okinawa. (@matz will also participate!) * Date: 2023/05/14 (Tue.) 14:00-18:00 (The day before RubyKaigi) * Location: SAKURA innobase Okinawa, Haseko Naha Building 1F, 1-2-13 Matsuyama, Naha City, Okinawa * Near by RubyKaigi venue (not a RubyKaigi venue). * Japanese page: https://www.sakura.ad.jp/innobase/ ### Program * 1:45pm door open * 2:00pm opening and self introduction * 2:30pm discuss topics * 5:00pm closing and free time (closing time is depends on topics) * 5:50pm door close There are several RubyKaigi related events after that so let's continue on the party: * [RubyKaigi 2024 前夜祭 Asakusa.rb Welcome Drinkup - connpass](https://andpad.connpass.com/event/313590/) ### How to participate Open to any RubyKaigi attendees who have a commit bit or who have a topic they particularly want to discuss. Please write your name on this spreadsheet to count the number of participants. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qXuvXvigP80CFNwseJDKm2YNkpQmzSg9WSI1... ### Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2023/05/10. I'll ask Matz which should be discussed on this meeting and reorder them. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

Issue #20436 has been updated by nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada). * [Feature #20437] Could be the licensing conditions be made less ambiguous? * [Bug #20438][Bug #20439] String format "%\n" and "%\0" does not raise format error * "%\n" has been treated as "%%" since commit:554b989ba162 , probably Tue Aug 6 01:12:32 1996 according to the commit log. * [Feature #20460] Ripper `eval` option * [Bug #20468] *Segfault on safe navigation in `for` target * Also constants are valid? ---------------------------------------- Misc #20436: DevMeeting at RubyKaigi 2024 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20436#change-108194 * Author: ko1 (Koichi Sasada) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- RubyKaigi 2024 will be at Okinawa, Japan, May 15th - 17th. We would like to try to hold a face-to-face dev meeting at Okinawa. (@matz will also participate!) * Date: 2023/05/14 (Tue.) 14:00-18:00 (The day before RubyKaigi) * Location: SAKURA innobase Okinawa, Haseko Naha Building 1F, 1-2-13 Matsuyama, Naha City, Okinawa * Near by RubyKaigi venue (not a RubyKaigi venue). * Japanese page: https://www.sakura.ad.jp/innobase/ ### Program * 1:45pm door open * 2:00pm opening and self introduction * 2:30pm discuss topics * 5:00pm closing and free time (closing time is depends on topics) * 5:50pm door close There are several RubyKaigi related events after that so let's continue on the party: * [RubyKaigi 2024 前夜祭 Asakusa.rb Welcome Drinkup - connpass](https://andpad.connpass.com/event/313590/) ### How to participate Open to any RubyKaigi attendees who have a commit bit or who have a topic they particularly want to discuss. Please write your name on this spreadsheet to count the number of participants. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qXuvXvigP80CFNwseJDKm2YNkpQmzSg9WSI1... ### Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2023/05/10. I'll ask Matz which should be discussed on this meeting and reorder them. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

Issue #20436 has been updated by ufuk (Ufuk Kayserilioglu). * [Misc #20432] Proposal for workflow changes related to teeny releases (ufuk) * Can we discuss the proposals to make branch maintainers' lives easier, so that we can target 6-7 teeny releases per stable version per year? * [Feature #19979] Allow methods to declare that they don't accept a block via `&nil`(ufuk) * I realize [Feature #15554] "warn/error passing a block to a method which never use a block" is going in the right direction. * Can we at least get runtime introspection for methods that should not be accepting a block? Something like: `method(:foo).parameters #=> [:noblock]` maybe? ---------------------------------------- Misc #20436: DevMeeting at RubyKaigi 2024 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20436#change-108195 * Author: ko1 (Koichi Sasada) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- RubyKaigi 2024 will be at Okinawa, Japan, May 15th - 17th. We would like to try to hold a face-to-face dev meeting at Okinawa. (@matz will also participate!) * Date: 2023/05/14 (Tue.) 14:00-18:00 (The day before RubyKaigi) * Location: SAKURA innobase Okinawa, Haseko Naha Building 1F, 1-2-13 Matsuyama, Naha City, Okinawa * Near by RubyKaigi venue (not a RubyKaigi venue). * Japanese page: https://www.sakura.ad.jp/innobase/ ### Program * 1:45pm door open * 2:00pm opening and self introduction * 2:30pm discuss topics * 5:00pm closing and free time (closing time is depends on topics) * 5:50pm door close There are several RubyKaigi related events after that so let's continue on the party: * [RubyKaigi 2024 前夜祭 Asakusa.rb Welcome Drinkup - connpass](https://andpad.connpass.com/event/313590/) ### How to participate Open to any RubyKaigi attendees who have a commit bit or who have a topic they particularly want to discuss. Please write your name on this spreadsheet to count the number of participants. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qXuvXvigP80CFNwseJDKm2YNkpQmzSg9WSI1... ### Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2023/05/10. I'll ask Matz which should be discussed on this meeting and reorder them. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

Issue #20436 has been updated by kddnewton (Kevin Newton). * [Misc #20238] Use prism for mk_builtin_loader.rb * This was discussed at a previous dev meeting, but not everyone was present, so I would like to discuss it again. * [Bug #20401] Duplicated when clause warning line number * Is it okay to change the warning message? The current phrasing is confusing. ---------------------------------------- Misc #20436: DevMeeting at RubyKaigi 2024 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20436#change-108238 * Author: ko1 (Koichi Sasada) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- RubyKaigi 2024 will be at Okinawa, Japan, May 15th - 17th. We would like to try to hold a face-to-face dev meeting at Okinawa. (@matz will also participate!) * Date: 2023/05/14 (Tue.) 14:00-18:00 (The day before RubyKaigi) * Location: SAKURA innobase Okinawa, Haseko Naha Building 1F, 1-2-13 Matsuyama, Naha City, Okinawa * Near by RubyKaigi venue (not a RubyKaigi venue). * Japanese page: https://www.sakura.ad.jp/innobase/ ### Program * 1:45pm door open * 2:00pm opening and self introduction * 2:30pm discuss topics * 5:00pm closing and free time (closing time is depends on topics) * 5:50pm door close There are several RubyKaigi related events after that so let's continue on the party: * [RubyKaigi 2024 前夜祭 Asakusa.rb Welcome Drinkup - connpass](https://andpad.connpass.com/event/313590/) ### How to participate Open to any RubyKaigi attendees who have a commit bit or who have a topic they particularly want to discuss. Please write your name on this spreadsheet to count the number of participants. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qXuvXvigP80CFNwseJDKm2YNkpQmzSg9WSI1... ### Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2023/05/10. I'll ask Matz which should be discussed on this meeting and reorder them. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

Issue #20436 has been updated by tenderlovemaking (Aaron Patterson). * [Bug #20424] ZLib::GZipReader always double allocates strings when passed outbuf, significantly increasing memory usage * Lots of discussion on the GitHub PR [here](https://github.com/ruby/zlib/pull/61) * What do we need to do to get it merged? ---------------------------------------- Misc #20436: DevMeeting at RubyKaigi 2024 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20436#change-108261 * Author: ko1 (Koichi Sasada) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- RubyKaigi 2024 will be at Okinawa, Japan, May 15th - 17th. We would like to try to hold a face-to-face dev meeting at Okinawa. (@matz will also participate!) * Date: 2023/05/14 (Tue.) 14:00-18:00 (The day before RubyKaigi) * Location: SAKURA innobase Okinawa, Haseko Naha Building 1F, 1-2-13 Matsuyama, Naha City, Okinawa * Near by RubyKaigi venue (not a RubyKaigi venue). * Japanese page: https://www.sakura.ad.jp/innobase/ ### Program * 1:45pm door open * 2:00pm opening and self introduction * 2:30pm discuss topics * 5:00pm closing and free time (closing time is depends on topics) * 5:50pm door close There are several RubyKaigi related events after that so let's continue on the party: * [RubyKaigi 2024 前夜祭 Asakusa.rb Welcome Drinkup - connpass](https://andpad.connpass.com/event/313590/) ### How to participate Open to any RubyKaigi attendees who have a commit bit or who have a topic they particularly want to discuss. Please write your name on this spreadsheet to count the number of participants. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qXuvXvigP80CFNwseJDKm2YNkpQmzSg9WSI1... ### Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2023/05/10. I'll ask Matz which should be discussed on this meeting and reorder them. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/

Issue #20436 has been updated by ko1 (Koichi Sasada). I asked Matz and here is a reordered agenda: https://hackmd.io/CoLraFp_QrqyHBcv3g8bVg?both Many topics so we can't discuss all of them. The purpose of this meeting is knowing each other. Please discuss detailed topics with the people involved during free time. ---------------------------------------- Misc #20436: DevMeeting at RubyKaigi 2024 https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20436#change-108274 * Author: ko1 (Koichi Sasada) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- RubyKaigi 2024 will be at Okinawa, Japan, May 15th - 17th. We would like to try to hold a face-to-face dev meeting at Okinawa. (@matz will also participate!) * Date: 2023/05/14 (Tue.) 14:00-18:00 (The day before RubyKaigi) * Location: SAKURA innobase Okinawa, Haseko Naha Building 1F, 1-2-13 Matsuyama, Naha City, Okinawa * Near by RubyKaigi venue (not a RubyKaigi venue). * Japanese page: https://www.sakura.ad.jp/innobase/ ### Program * 1:45pm door open * 2:00pm opening and self introduction * 2:30pm discuss topics * 5:00pm closing and free time (closing time is depends on topics) * 5:50pm door close There are several RubyKaigi related events after that so let's continue on the party: * [RubyKaigi 2024 前夜祭 Asakusa.rb Welcome Drinkup - connpass](https://andpad.connpass.com/event/313590/) ### How to participate Open to any RubyKaigi attendees who have a commit bit or who have a topic they particularly want to discuss. Please write your name on this spreadsheet to count the number of participants. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qXuvXvigP80CFNwseJDKm2YNkpQmzSg9WSI1... ### Call for agenda items If you have a ticket that you want matz and committers to discuss, please post it into this ticket in the following format: ``` * [Ticket ref] Ticket title (your name) * Comment (A summary of the ticket, why you put this ticket here, what point should be discussed, etc.) ``` Example: ``` * [Feature #14609] `Kernel#p` without args shows the receiver (ko1) * I feel this feature is very useful and some people say :+1: so let discuss this feature. ``` - It is recommended to add a comment by 2023/05/10. I'll ask Matz which should be discussed on this meeting and reorder them. - The format is strict. We'll use [this script to automatically create an markdown-style agenda](https://gist.github.com/mame/b0390509ce1491b43610b9ebb665eb86). We may ignore a comment that does not follow the format. - Your comment is mandatory. We cannot read all discussion of the ticket in a limited time. We appreciate it if you could write a short summary and update from a previous discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/
participants (10)
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andrykonchin (Andrew Konchin)
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byroot (Jean Boussier)
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eightbitraptor (Matthew Valentine-House)
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Eregon (Benoit Daloze)
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kddnewton (Kevin Newton)
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ko1 (Koichi Sasada)
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nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada)
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peterzhu2118 (Peter Zhu)
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tenderlovemaking (Aaron Patterson)
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ufuk (Ufuk Kayserilioglu)