[ruby-talk:444067] Re: [ANN] hoe 4.0.0 Released

https://www.zenspider.com/ruby/2006/10/unattended-hoes.html I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. No one uses rake anymore except for class methods in sidekiq

Not gonna touch this one either. > > -a > >> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 9:08 PM Corey Donohoe &lt;atmos(a)atmos.org&gt; wrote: > >> Austin, >> >> My point was that hoe and the way it was presented is antiquated and >> terrible for a decent community of programmers. >> >> I know ryan. I met you but you prolly won't remember me. Just change the >> fucking name and be less of a dick. >> >> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 9:04 PM Austin Ziegler via ruby-talk < >> ruby-talk(a)ml.ruby-lang.org&gt; wrote: >> >>> I just reported a minor bug, then Corey decided to misread the name of >>> the project, shit all over it, read a blog post entirely out of context — >>> probably because he doesn’t like Ryan. >>> >>> I’m sorry that he’s so bitter. >>> >>> -a >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 8:58 PM Veez Remsik via ruby-talk < >>> ruby-talk(a)ml.ruby-lang.org&gt; wrote: >>> >>>> I was feeling cantankerous and this thread is making me doubly so. Yes, >>>> there’s a double entendre there, but it’s up to you to make it. Hoes work >>>> similarly to rakes. >>>> >>>> Can we not just have a release announcement without a fight?! Fucks >>>> sake. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 7:54 PM ara.t.howard via ruby-talk < >>>> ruby-talk(a)ml.ruby-lang.org&gt; wrote: >>>> >>>>> Every woman reading this has fled and left for Typescript so, >>>>> ultimately, it's kinna sad, watching it all burn down... :-( >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022, 18:47 Corey Donohoe via ruby-talk < >>>>> ruby-talk(a)ml.ruby-lang.org&gt; wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Apologies for the antagonism, enjoy maintaining gems w/ a >>>>>> condescending term EXECUTABLE. >>>>>> >>>>>> ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 8:40 PM Austin Ziegler &lt;halostatue(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I’d encourage you to stop promoting practices worse than what Hoe >>>>>>> does. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If I replace Hoe in my projects, it will be with a derivation of Hoe >>>>>>> that I maintain, not with garbage generated by `bundle gem` or other tools >>>>>>> that I have tried (I’ve tried to use `gemsmith`, and find it…utterly >>>>>>> unusable). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 8:34 PM Corey Donohoe &lt;atmos(a)atmos.org&gt; >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'd encourage you to try what the rest of the ruby community is >>>>>>>> running vs hyping up old friends projects. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 7:18 PM Corey Donohoe &lt;atmos(a)atmos.org&gt; >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hoe is shitty because it comes from a terrible place >>>>>>>>> https://www.zenspider.com/ruby/2006/10/unattended-hoes.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 6:13 PM Austin Ziegler < >>>>>>>>> halostatue(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Absolutely: `bundle gem` doesn’t really do anything for you. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We're prolly both biased towards working systems but this is a >>>>>>>>> grossly misinformed statement. "bundle gem" "gem push" >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> `hoe`, with a few judicious plugins, makes the release process >>>>>>>>>> easy. It was created by Ryan because he has a prodigious number of gems. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> All of the gems that I am the primary maintainer for use Hoe, and >>>>>>>>>> have since it was first released. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - https://github.com/KineticCafe/app_identity/tree/main/ruby >>>>>>>>>> - https://github.com/mime-types/ruby-mime-types >>>>>>>>>> - https://github.com/mime-types/mime-types-data >>>>>>>>>> - https://github.com/halostatue/diff-lcs >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm certain that I've used something you've touched in my ruby >>>>>>>>> usage, but this is keeping it alive for keeping it alive. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sure, there’s nothing that I *couldn’t* do with this, but when I >>>>>>>>>> get ready for release, after updating the version, I basically do: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ```sh >>>>>>>>>> $ bundle exec rake git:manifest gemspec >>>>>>>>>> $ git commit -am "Update manifest and gemspec" >>>>>>>>>> $ bundle exec rake release VERSION=2.3 # or whatever the version >>>>>>>>>> number is >>>>>>>>>> ``` >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It can, as the first post in this thread shows, even email your >>>>>>>>>> announcement to ruby-core, but I have disabled that in most of my gems (the >>>>>>>>>> value has dropped). If Twitter were likely to be an ongoing concern, then >>>>>>>>>> it might be possible to automate such posts *there*, too, with a hoe plugin. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can write your gemspec manually, but why would you? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You obviously don't use anything modern. This is solved with >>>>>>>>> bundle gem. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You could depend on the Gemfile, but why would you? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Far better to just do the right thing by default and use hoe. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The "right" thing is to reflect on what's best and it's not hoe >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -a >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 5:47 PM Corey Donohoe &lt;atmos(a)atmos.org&gt; >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Any reason to use this over the “bundle gem” command so many of >>>>>>>>>>> us adopted over the last decade? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 11:56 AM Austin Ziegler via ruby-talk < >>>>>>>>>>> ruby-talk(a)ml.ruby-lang.org&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't look like seattlerb/hoe has been updated. There’s no >>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0 tag and no details on the upgrade path in the History.md. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 2:37 PM Ryan Davis < >>>>>>>>>>>> ryand-ruby(a)zenspider.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> hoe version 4.0.0 has been released! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * home: <http://www.zenspider.com/projects/hoe.html> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * code: <https://github.com/seattlerb/hoe> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * bugs: <https://github.com/seattlerb/hoe/issues> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * rdoc: <http://docs.seattlerb.org/hoe/> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * doco: <http://docs.seattlerb.org/hoe/Hoe.pdf> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * clog: < >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/seattlerb/hoe/blob/master/History.rdoc> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * other: <http://github.com/jbarnette/hoe-plugin-examples> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hoe is a rake/rubygems helper for project Rakefiles. It helps >>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>>> manage, maintain, and release your project and includes a >>>>>>>>>>>>> dynamic >>>>>>>>>>>>> plug-in system allowing for easy extensibility. Hoe ships with >>>>>>>>>>>>> plug-ins for all your usual project tasks including rdoc >>>>>>>>>>>>> generation, >>>>>>>>>>>>> testing, packaging, deployment, and announcement. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> See class rdoc for help. Hint: `ri Hoe` or any of the plugins >>>>>>>>>>>>> listed >>>>>>>>>>>>> below. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> For extra goodness, see: http://docs.seattlerb.org/hoe/Hoe.pdf >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Changes: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ### 3.26.0 / 2022-10-20 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * 2 minor enhancements: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Added warning to bundled minitest/test_task. >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Removed dead rcov plugin and added (simple)cov plugin. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * 1 bug fix: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Fixed test task load path issue, prepend Hoe.include_dirs >>>>>>>>>>>>> to ensure they come first. >>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> ruby-talk mailing list -- ruby-talk(a)ml.ruby-lang.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>>>>>>>>>>>> ruby-talk-leave(a)ml.ruby-lang.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> ruby-talk info -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://ml.ruby-lang.org/mailman3/postorius/lists/ruby-talk.ml.ruby-lang.or… >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Austin Ziegler • halostatue(a)gmail.com • austin(a)halostatue.ca >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.halostatue.ca/ • http://twitter.com/halostatue >>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> ruby-talk mailing list -- ruby-talk(a)ml.ruby-lang.org >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>>>>>>>>>>> ruby-talk-leave(a)ml.ruby-lang.org >>>>>>>>>>>> ruby-talk info -- >>>>>>>>>>>> https://ml.ruby-lang.org/mailman3/postorius/lists/ruby-talk.ml.ruby-lang.or… >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Austin Ziegler • halostatue(a)gmail.com • austin(a)halostatue.ca >>>>>>>>>> http://www.halostatue.ca/ • http://twitter.com/halostatue >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Austin Ziegler • halostatue(a)gmail.com • austin(a)halostatue.ca >>>>>>> http://www.halostatue.ca/ • http://twitter.com/halostatue >>>>>>> >>>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>>> ruby-talk mailing list -- ruby-talk(a)ml.ruby-lang.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to ruby-talk-leave(a)ml.ruby-lang.org >>>>>> ruby-talk info -- >>>>>> https://ml.ruby-lang.org/mailman3/postorius/lists/ruby-talk.ml.ruby-lang.or… >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>> ruby-talk mailing list -- ruby-talk(a)ml.ruby-lang.org >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to ruby-talk-leave(a)ml.ruby-lang.org >>>>> ruby-talk info -- >>>>> https://ml.ruby-lang.org/mailman3/postorius/lists/ruby-talk.ml.ruby-lang.or… >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> ruby-talk mailing list -- ruby-talk(a)ml.ruby-lang.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to ruby-talk-leave(a)ml.ruby-lang.org >>>> ruby-talk info -- >>>> https://ml.ruby-lang.org/mailman3/postorius/lists/ruby-talk.ml.ruby-lang.or… >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Austin Ziegler • halostatue(a)gmail.com • austin(a)halostatue.ca >>> http://www.halostatue.ca/ • http://twitter.com/halostatue >>> ______________________________________________ >>> ruby-talk mailing list -- ruby-talk(a)ml.ruby-lang.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to ruby-talk-leave(a)ml.ruby-lang.org >>> ruby-talk info -- >>> https://ml.ruby-lang.org/mailman3/postorius/lists/ruby-talk.ml.ruby-lang.or… >> >> > > -- > Austin Ziegler • halostatue(a)gmail.com • austin(a)halostatue.ca > http://www.halostatue.ca/ • http://twitter.com/halostatue >

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