[ruby-talk:444075] Re: [ANN] hoe 4.0.0 Released

Austin, My point was that hoe and the way it was presented is antiquated and terrible for a decent community of programmers. I know ryan. I met you but you prolly won't remember me. Just change the fucking name and be less of a dick. On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 9:04 PM Austin Ziegler via ruby-talk < ruby-talk(a)ml.ruby-lang.org&gt; wrote: > I just reported a minor bug, then Corey decided to misread the name of > the project, shit all over it, read a blog post entirely out of context — > probably because he doesn’t like Ryan. > > I’m sorry that he’s so bitter. > > -a > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 8:58 PM Veez Remsik via ruby-talk < > ruby-talk(a)ml.ruby-lang.org&gt; wrote: > >> I was feeling cantankerous and this thread is making me doubly so. >> Yes, there’s a double entendre there, but it’s up to you to make it. Hoes >> work similarly to rakes. >> >> Can we not just have a release announcement without a fight?! Fucks >> sake. >> >> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 7:54 PM ara.t.howard via ruby-talk < >> ruby-talk(a)ml.ruby-lang.org&gt; wrote: >> >>> Every woman reading this has fled and left for Typescript so, >>> ultimately, it's kinna sad, watching it all burn down... :-( >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022, 18:47 Corey Donohoe via ruby-talk < >>> ruby-talk(a)ml.ruby-lang.org&gt; wrote: >>> >>>> Apologies for the antagonism, enjoy maintaining gems w/ a >>>> condescending term EXECUTABLE. >>>> >>>> ;) >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 8:40 PM Austin Ziegler < >>>> halostatue(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>>> >>>>> I’d encourage you to stop promoting practices worse than what Hoe >>>>> does. >>>>> >>>>> If I replace Hoe in my projects, it will be with a derivation of >>>>> Hoe that I maintain, not with garbage generated by `bundle gem` or other >>>>> tools that I have tried (I’ve tried to use `gemsmith`, and find it…utterly >>>>> unusable). >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 8:34 PM Corey Donohoe &lt;atmos(a)atmos.org&gt; >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'd encourage you to try what the rest of the ruby community is >>>>>> running vs hyping up old friends projects. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 7:18 PM Corey Donohoe &lt;atmos(a)atmos.org&gt; >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hoe is shitty because it comes from a terrible place >>>>>>> https://www.zenspider.com/ruby/2006/10/unattended-hoes.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 6:13 PM Austin Ziegler < >>>>>>> halostatue(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Absolutely: `bundle gem` doesn’t really do anything for you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We're prolly both biased towards working systems but this is a >>>>>>> grossly misinformed statement. "bundle gem" "gem push" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> `hoe`, with a few judicious plugins, makes the release process >>>>>>>> easy. It was created by Ryan because he has a prodigious number of gems. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All of the gems that I am the primary maintainer for use Hoe, >>>>>>>> and have since it was first released. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - https://github.com/KineticCafe/app_identity/tree/main/ruby >>>>>>>> - https://github.com/mime-types/ruby-mime-types >>>>>>>> - https://github.com/mime-types/mime-types-data >>>>>>>> - https://github.com/halostatue/diff-lcs >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm certain that I've used something you've touched in my ruby >>>>>>> usage, but this is keeping it alive for keeping it alive. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sure, there’s nothing that I *couldn’t* do with this, but when I >>>>>>>> get ready for release, after updating the version, I basically do: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ```sh >>>>>>>> $ bundle exec rake git:manifest gemspec >>>>>>>> $ git commit -am "Update manifest and gemspec" >>>>>>>> $ bundle exec rake release VERSION=2.3 # or whatever the >>>>>>>> version number is >>>>>>>> ``` >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It can, as the first post in this thread shows, even email your >>>>>>>> announcement to ruby-core, but I have disabled that in most of my gems (the >>>>>>>> value has dropped). If Twitter were likely to be an ongoing concern, then >>>>>>>> it might be possible to automate such posts *there*, too, with a hoe plugin. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can write your gemspec manually, but why would you? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You obviously don't use anything modern. This is solved with >>>>>>> bundle gem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You could depend on the Gemfile, but why would you? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Far better to just do the right thing by default and use hoe. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The "right" thing is to reflect on what's best and it's not hoe >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -a >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 5:47 PM Corey Donohoe &lt;atmos(a)atmos.org&gt; >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Any reason to use this over the “bundle gem” command so many >>>>>>>>> of us adopted over the last decade? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 11:56 AM Austin Ziegler via ruby-talk < >>>>>>>>> ruby-talk(a)ml.ruby-lang.org&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It doesn't look like seattlerb/hoe has been updated. There’s >>>>>>>>>> no 4.0.0 tag and no details on the upgrade path in the History.md. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 2:37 PM Ryan Davis < >>>>>>>>>> ryand-ruby(a)zenspider.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> hoe version 4.0.0 has been released! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * home: <http://www.zenspider.com/projects/hoe.html> >>>>>>>>>>> * code: <https://github.com/seattlerb/hoe> >>>>>>>>>>> * bugs: <https://github.com/seattlerb/hoe/issues> >>>>>>>>>>> * rdoc: <http://docs.seattlerb.org/hoe/> >>>>>>>>>>> * doco: <http://docs.seattlerb.org/hoe/Hoe.pdf> >>>>>>>>>>> * clog: < >>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/seattlerb/hoe/blob/master/History.rdoc> >>>>>>>>>>> * other: <http://github.com/jbarnette/hoe-plugin-examples> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hoe is a rake/rubygems helper for project Rakefiles. It >>>>>>>>>>> helps you >>>>>>>>>>> manage, maintain, and release your project and includes a >>>>>>>>>>> dynamic >>>>>>>>>>> plug-in system allowing for easy extensibility. Hoe ships >>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>> plug-ins for all your usual project tasks including rdoc >>>>>>>>>>> generation, >>>>>>>>>>> testing, packaging, deployment, and announcement. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> See class rdoc for help. Hint: `ri Hoe` or any of the >>>>>>>>>>> plugins listed >>>>>>>>>>> below. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> For extra goodness, see: >>>>>>>>>>> http://docs.seattlerb.org/hoe/Hoe.pdf >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Changes: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ### 3.26.0 / 2022-10-20 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * 2 minor enhancements: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Added warning to bundled minitest/test_task. >>>>>>>>>>> * Removed dead rcov plugin and added (simple)cov plugin. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * 1 bug fix: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> * Fixed test task load path issue, prepend >>>>>>>>>>> Hoe.include_dirs to ensure they come first. >>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> ruby-talk mailing list -- ruby-talk(a)ml.ruby-lang.org >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>>>>>>>>>> ruby-talk-leave(a)ml.ruby-lang.org >>>>>>>>>>> ruby-talk info -- >>>>>>>>>>> https://ml.ruby-lang.org/mailman3/postorius/lists/ruby-talk.ml.ruby-lang.or… >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Austin Ziegler • halostatue(a)gmail.com • austin(a)halostatue.ca >>>>>>>>>> http://www.halostatue.ca/ • http://twitter.com/halostatue >>>>>>>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> ruby-talk mailing list -- ruby-talk(a)ml.ruby-lang.org >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>>>>>>>>> ruby-talk-leave(a)ml.ruby-lang.org >>>>>>>>>> ruby-talk info -- >>>>>>>>>> https://ml.ruby-lang.org/mailman3/postorius/lists/ruby-talk.ml.ruby-lang.or… >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Austin Ziegler • halostatue(a)gmail.com • austin(a)halostatue.ca >>>>>>>> http://www.halostatue.ca/ • http://twitter.com/halostatue >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Austin Ziegler • halostatue(a)gmail.com • austin(a)halostatue.ca >>>>> http://www.halostatue.ca/ • http://twitter.com/halostatue >>>>> >>>> ______________________________________________ >>>> ruby-talk mailing list -- ruby-talk(a)ml.ruby-lang.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to ruby-talk-leave(a)ml.ruby-lang.org >>>> ruby-talk info -- >>>> https://ml.ruby-lang.org/mailman3/postorius/lists/ruby-talk.ml.ruby-lang.or… >>> >>> ______________________________________________ >>> ruby-talk mailing list -- ruby-talk(a)ml.ruby-lang.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to ruby-talk-leave(a)ml.ruby-lang.org >>> ruby-talk info -- >>> https://ml.ruby-lang.org/mailman3/postorius/lists/ruby-talk.ml.ruby-lang.or… >> >> ______________________________________________ >> ruby-talk mailing list -- ruby-talk(a)ml.ruby-lang.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to ruby-talk-leave(a)ml.ruby-lang.org >> ruby-talk info -- >> https://ml.ruby-lang.org/mailman3/postorius/lists/ruby-talk.ml.ruby-lang.or… > > > > -- > Austin Ziegler • halostatue(a)gmail.com • austin(a)halostatue.ca > http://www.halostatue.ca/ • http://twitter.com/halostatue > ______________________________________________ > ruby-talk mailing list -- ruby-talk(a)ml.ruby-lang.org > To unsubscribe send an email to ruby-talk-leave(a)ml.ruby-lang.org > ruby-talk info -- > https://ml.ruby-lang.org/mailman3/postorius/lists/ruby-talk.ml.ruby-lang.or…